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  • Basecamp, E-mail and Projects

    By Joshua Kim June 20, 2010 9:11 pm EDT

    Will we ever get beyond e-mail as the main tool to manage our project communications? Everyone I know believes that e-mail is a terrible tool to keep track of all the tasks, to dos, milestones, decencies, and people related to projects. We are all overwhelmed by too much e-mail, and therefore likely to miss key communications related to our projects. E-mail makes it difficult to achieve a holistic view of the entire project process, forcing us to wade through numerous screens to see project communication. Nor does e-mail allow us to place project related messages with project related documents, links or materials.

    E-mail for project management is also sub-optimal when it comes to communicating with all the people involved in the project. It is never clear who should be cc'd on project related messages. CC too few people and you run the risk of not being fully transparent. CC too many people and your project related communication will turn into project spam, crowding out critical messages to project members that require action.

    The problems with e-mail for project management are widely known and widely agreed upon. And we have alternatives. Basecamp is a relatively easy to use and affordable cloud based project management platform. For a small investment in dollars, and little effort to go up learning curves, project documents, milestones, to dos, and messages can be captured in Basecamp. Maybe you have another online project management software platform that you can suggest? I've used AceProject in the past, and my brother suggests FogBugz. WikiPedia lists over 80 project management software products, with most of these available as online services.

    So why is it that every new project that I've started in Basecamp eventually devolves into e-mail? Is this the case for you as well? Everyone agrees we should manage the project in Basecamp. We start putting all the documentation and messages in Basecamp. But at some point the volume of communication about the project starts to switch to e-mail, and overtime the number of messages related to the project that exist in e-mail dwarf anything in Basecamp.

    Some ideas about why we always devolve to e-mail for projects:

    1. Ubiquity: Everyone is on e-mail. It is a ubiquitous platform. Therefore, anyone who touches the project will also be on e-mail, a condition that does not always hold true for Basecamp. Once some people start to communicate through e-mail instead of Basecamp the tendency will be for most of the communication to migrate to the ubiquitous platform.

    2. Unity: Nobody wants to use more system than they need to. We want a unified view for all of our work. If possible, we want to avoid switching between applications. Since we are already in e-mail our tendency will be to use the tool that we use everyday.

    3. Communication: Projects are really about communication. Projects might have attributes (such as milestone, requirements, timetables etc.), but they depend on people to accomplish everything. E-mail is about communication, and no tool has supplanted e-mail for one-to-one and one-to-many communication. Asking ourselves to use one tool to communicate with some people, and another tool to communicate with different (or often the same people) about a project is simply not realistic.

    I think for online project management platforms to work it will be necessary to have total integration with e-mail. Project management will need to occur from the e-mail application. The analogy is calendaring. We use calendaring systems that are built into our e-mail platforms as extensions. We go to e-mail to use Google Calendar or Exchange (Outlook) Calendars etc.

    Does this exist? Has anyone built good project management tools (as good as Basecamp) that work from GMail or Exchange or Apple Mail or some other e-mail client? It would need to be Web-based, cross-platform, and simple. Looking forward to any advice.

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Comments on Basecamp, E-mail and Projects

  • Are they ready yet?
  • Posted by Brian Mulligan , Open Learning Coordinator at Institute of Technology Sligo on June 21, 2010 at 8:00am EDT
  • i had a look at online project management systems about a year ago and found that none of them really suited me yet. Tight integration with email was very important to me. Here were a few of my requirements:

    • messages posted in the system were routed out to participants email addresses.
    • the 'subject' of the email included the topic of the message posted (not 'message for you from acme project') - makes it easier for you to line up tasks in your email
    • participants should not have to register in the system (can be included by project manager)
    • the system will accept emails from registered members and archive and distribute them appropriately.
    • 'Reply' will go to the above email address for the group/topic (a bit like it used to be when I used Yahoo Groups)

    Even Basecamp did not do all this for me.

    Brian
    http://brian.mulligan.googlepages.com/

  • Google Wave
  • Posted by doofus on June 21, 2010 at 2:00pm EDT
  • Google Wave mixes email with trackability.

  • Basecamp has its problems
  • Posted by Amy Helfman , Webmaster, MIT150 at MIT on June 21, 2010 at 2:00pm EDT
  • I'm using Basecamp for the first time (both as a user and an administrator), and I keep tripping over things it can't do.

    Its milestones cannot be imported into Entourage/Exhcange, which is the standard calendar for most of my project participants. It seems that they have more hacks and workarounds than actual features, and I find that many people treat emails from Basecamp as if they were spam, regardless of how infrequently they're sent.

    I also find that some of my more senior colleagues prefer to get personal email because an asynchronous collaboration environment like Basecamp is completely alien to their concept of collegial communications.

  • Where does SharePoint fit in?
  • Posted by Rick Mickelson , Program Manager at UW-Eau Claire on June 22, 2010 at 1:00pm EDT
  • Anybody using SharePoint? On our campus (FTE10,000) we've had a MS SharePoint server for sometime, but have put little effort into using it properly and it's become simply a new place to park files. In the last few months I've read several guides to using MS SharePoint for project management and see some good potential, but SharePoint seems to be most effective when a good set of governance policies are in place. I'm finding creating governance from the grass roots is a difficult task.

  • SharePoint
  • Posted by Steve Pyle on June 22, 2010 at 1:15pm EDT
  • Microsoft's SharePoint can be used for this, with a few caveats. It has to be set up correctly ahead of time for this purpose and the project team must be trained on how to use the tool to get the best results.

    Workflows and project tasks can be tracked with a SharePoint site and email notifications can be sent to select audiences as required.

  • FogBugz
  • Posted by Dave Aman , Senior Project Director/BioInformatics at Dartmouth Medical School on June 30, 2010 at 1:45pm EDT
  • Josh,

    I agree with your brother's suggestion. We use FogBugz in our group, and I'm quite happy with it. It has good integration with e-mail. I would be happy to give you a demo sometime.

  • DeskAway for project collaboration
  • Posted by Sahil , Founder at DeskAway on July 7, 2010 at 6:00am EDT
  • Hello,
    This is true and that is how people like to work - through their inbox. Instead of changing people's habit and asking them to move to another system, the system should adapt to people's behaviour. We saw this as a challenge and have built a decent integration with email where tasks/issues that are emailed can be converted to a task or an issue by the app. Communication that happens in email can be easily be tracked within the app by using your unique account email address within all conversations.

    Good read!

  • HI
  • Posted by cathrene , Project Management Software on August 25, 2010 at 8:45am EDT
  • I have use http://www.proofhub.com/ and i am a big fan of proofhub. It is a great online project management software.

  • Posted by Amos , ProofHub on September 16, 2010 at 6:15am EDT
  • ProofHub sounds good. I tried its free trial version and its looks great project management software. I like many tools and functions of proofhub.

  • Basecamp + E-mail
  • Posted by J Lane on October 12, 2010 at 4:15pm EDT
  • I built an "extra" for Basecamp called Mailmanagr (www.mailmanagr.com) that lets you post all kinds of content to Basecamp via. e-mail.

    I found the same thing that you describe: essential information would end up getting sent through e-mail outside of Basecamp projects. With Mailmanagr, you can just set up a series of addresses, and forward essential information into Basecamp.

    There's a free version that lets you do pretty much everything, except for handling files.
  • Spreading Views
  • Posted by quillan , ProofHub at Company on November 10, 2010 at 5:00am EST
  • I often use software named ProofHub and it is in a good competition with Basecamp. You should think about it. Proofhub is more user friendly than Basecamp.