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  • Guest Post: On Seeing Clearly

    By Dinty W. Moore November 30, 2007 10:46 am

    [ Recently I asked writer, editor and teacher Dinty W. Moore to join the conversation on teaching creative writing, and it's my pleasure to bring you his response today. Dinty is the author of several books, including Between Panic & Desire (U of Nebraska/American Lives, 2008). He is the newest member of the creative writing faculty at Ohio University. --Churm]

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    My host, Oronte Churm, offers his usual generous insight in the recent “Of Pedagogy” blog entry, but it is his conclusion that makes the most sense and bothers me at the same time.

    “My task as a teacher,” Oronte writes, “… is to help others see for themselves and to use the chosen form to articulate that vision. Seeing clearly takes enormous will, energy, and courage. It’s the hardest thing I’ve ever tried to do, and therefore one of the most satisfying.”

    Yes, yes, yes, and yes. In any art form, the act of seeing, seeing as an individual, and bravely reporting back what is seen, unflinchingly, is always the source of magic and power. Sometimes the result is reported back musically, or in movement, or abstractly, but the principle holds.

    Except, here’s my concern:

    After sixteen years of pushing that old pedagogical stone up the hill, I sometimes question whether the conventional undergraduate—a nineteen- or twenty-year old American child of the middle class—really wants to see the world clearly. Or if he even has the ability.

    Now there are exceptions, surely, but I am talking about the general mass of students, those that want to write, want to be writers, certainly want to have written, but can’t be prodded or cajoled or threatened into saying something other than what they know to be safe, acceptable, and familiar. These are good students, by and large. Many of them have admirable skill at assembling sentences, images, scenes, and metaphors. But the writing reveals nothing, goes nowhere, and deliberately takes no chances.

    I know that in many cases these students have lived complex lives and come from thorny family backgrounds. Many have faced physical, emotional, or economic adversity. Yet they want to write about characters they have seen on television, characters that are safely represented elsewhere in our culture, transparent and easily-categorized characters doing things that are merely clever.

    Now I’m sounding positively crotchety here, aren’t I? A 50-something, married, once-tenured (though not currently), white male attacking the kids. What sort of teacher does that?

    But the truth: when I was an undergraduate, in my first creative writing class, I couldn’t see clearly, or even begin to be objective. My world view was so confused, so uncertain, so tumultuous, that I could barely write two honest sentences back to back. And if I did, by some miracle, write two honest sentences, my first instinct would be to hide them away. Forever.

    I’m wondering, ultimately, whether the capacity to stand aside one’s own position and look with clear vision—at one’s own life, one’s own family, one’s own country, one’s own pain, one’s own joy, or one’s own actions—develops in the brain (or soul, or pancreas—I honestly don’t know) sometime following the first two decades of existence. There is a switch, maybe, that must be flipped, perhaps by some chemical modification, some hormonal tipping of the balance, before we can actually begin to discern the contradictions, the mysteries, the hard truths. Any brain chemists out there, reading this? Can we identify the cognitive lever?

    The average twenty-year old, by no fault of his own, doesn’t want the hard truth. He still wants to be reassured. He wants to believe that the answer is simple: if we act well, things turn out well; if we act badly, we are punished. It is only when we get older—most of us, that is—that we’re able to understand with any depth just how arbitrary, unfair, mysterious, odd, and slanted is that thing we call reality.

    Okay. My rant is concluded. But what of it? If a twenty-year old, as I suggest, isn’t really ready to step out and view the world, write ruthlessly about human nature, sink her literary incisors into the deep inscrutability of who we are and how we got here, then what do we teach them? What are we doing?

    I’ve made my living teaching writing to young people for the past sixteen years, and I’m still asking that question.

    To my way of thinking, this is probably a good thing.

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Comments on Guest Post: On Seeing Clearly

  • Methinks Dinty Doth Protest Too Much
  • Posted by Oronte on November 30, 2007 at 12:55pm EST
  • To wit, the exam copy of a textbook I received in the mail last week from the publisher Pearson:

    http://www.amazon.com/Truth-Matter-Craft-Creative-Nonfiction/dp/0321277619/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1196444873&sr=8-1

    Hope in the efficacy of teaching springs eternal.

  • Posted by Sudy on November 30, 2007 at 2:25pm EST
  • Pedagogical thoughts from another over 50 something, married guy who teaches at nowhere
    college

    So, this morning I talked with my students for nearly three hours about Oedipus and Slaughterhouse-Five, Sophocles and Vonnegut, tragedy and comedy, absurdity. Dr. Strangelove. The Bomb. The Cold War. Peter Sellers and The Pink Panther. Woodstock. The Myth of Sysiphus. Krapp's Last Tape. The music they listen to, and the movies they currently watch - The Departed, American Gangster, No Country for Old Men, Pulp Fiction, etc. Perhaps we made no sense. Some of the students didn't care, won't care, ever, but some of them do. I challenged them to finish the paper, due by the end of the semester, and to think about Sophocles' vison of the world and Vonnegut's vision of the world, and their own vision of the world, and whatever happens in it. My own pedagogical rock has been in front of me for over thirty years now, and I still get excited seeing students begin to think and question. Some of them contact me later in life and let me know they are thinking and they care. They noticed that Vonnegut died - "So it goes." No, their papers may not have been all that good or "honest" when they were in class. Maybe my teaching wasn't either. But something happened, for some of them.

  • Posted by Patrick , Thanks on November 30, 2007 at 6:20pm EST
  • Thanks, man. Churm is good, but sometimes he's a bit lyrical which confuses me. You helped to clear that up. I think that I and other students forget about seeing, that this sort of overarching ideal gets lost in the sentence to sentence work of writing. It helps to be reminded of it every now and then because...well its inspiring.

  • Pedagogical throughts from a just over 50, not married female
  • Posted by Laurie on November 30, 2007 at 7:00pm EST
  • I think we dream big dreams at the beginning of our teaching careers (if we're really invested in teaching), and we think with time that the way and the answers will become clear. Over the years (I'm at 17 years now) we begin to realize there are no clear answers but that the questions, the search for the way, is integral to good teaching because it keeps us alive in the classroom. Just like the search for the questions and the way keeps us alive in our writing.

    My dreams are still big, in that I'm looking to turn on some lights, prompt a change in perception, open some minds, but the context of those big dreams have changed as have my expectations (or hopes).

    One, just one student in a class who is on her way to "seeing" can sustain me. For the others I want them to be exposed to great writing (I want them to want to read, recognize a story or a book holds as much fascination--if not more--than a TV show or the latest iPod download), I want them to fall in love a little with language (just one moment where each student has his moment of saying, "Hey, that's brilliant what writer X is doing here"), I want them to take risks (understanding their idea of risk might be very different from mine); I want them to write at least 3 sentences that they recognize as good (and ARE good); I want them to create at least one character that's on her way to being three-dimensional; and I want them to recognize how hard writing is (and a few of them to continue despite it).

    I have come to believe that good teaching involves teaching at different levels in one class--reaching the one who is on his way to seeing as well as one who won't continue writing but will have had a light or two turned on in the process.

    Idealistic? Perhaps. But I've just finished a term with 20 undergrads and it was rewarding to see each of them in a different place from where they started.

  • Posted by Jessica on December 1, 2007 at 6:45am EST
  • If I can’t or if I don’t want to look at anything with any clarity at my age, maybe that’s just the way things are. But I can’t—or shouldn’t—be sent out into the world without a hint that the way I see the world may not be honest, that the world perhaps isn’t entirely knowable, that cleverness is not enough. Writing classes may be one of the few places on a college campus where people are given that hint. But what are you doing? What do you teach us? I don’t know, but I’ll be honest with you: I’ve more or less based my studied avoidance of writing classes on a complete lack of decent answers to either question. That may be a mistake, but if so I happily have a few semesters left to correct it.

  • Teaching writing
  • Posted by Bill Melater on December 1, 2007 at 11:30am EST
  • Almost 30 years ago, Kurt Vonnegut visited my alma mater and spoke to a group of students--English majors, mostly--about writing. He asked how many of us wanted to write. Many young hands went up in the air. Vonnegut then advised us to quit school and go live so that we might have something to write about. As I recall, he suggested getting a job on a banana boat in South America. The dean who had invited Vonnegut looked unhappy. But Vonnegut was correct. No one learns anything good or real about writing from a writing class.

  • Patrick
  • Posted by Oronte on December 2, 2007 at 10:10am EST
  • On behalf of my friend Rory, thanks for saying I'm lyrical. Dude like him can feast on a word like that for months.

  • Bill M.
  • Posted by Oronte on December 2, 2007 at 10:10am EST
  • With you, as my Scots relatives say. And I won't point out how your definitive view on how to become a writer originated in a writing classroom--30 years ago.

    I don't know an easy answer to this classroom-versus-the-world koan, but I always think of young Hemingway, whose parents wanted him to attend the University of Illinois. Instead, he learned at the knees of Gertrude Stein, Pound, et al. What if Stein, in this day and age, was to be found at, say, Ohio University, instead of on Rue du Fleurus?

  • Real life
  • Posted by Justin on December 3, 2007 at 2:55pm EST
  • Most of your 18-25 year old students still have their dreams, and well planned lives intact. They haven't seen the disappointments in life, either in themselves or others. Few have experienced loss or a deep heartbreak. Most haven't reached the point in life where their ceiling of potential, that they had to strain to see, is now pressing down on their head causing their mid-section to expand. Some simply haven't failed enough to know that they have to change the way they think, act, or react. If you lay the groundwork, prepare them for the day their eyes are opened. Then you have done a good job.

  • Posted by Zachary G. , The thoughts of an nineteen year old sophomore in college. on December 3, 2007 at 6:00pm EST
  • Throughout high school all of my English classes involved writing about specific topics that did not require the student to but much thought into the essay the only real aspect of the paper was when it was due and how long it had to be. Only after taking two English classes, that required the students to challenge their views of the world and write about issues that we had a personal interest in, has open the world of writing for me. Writing allow students to identify themselves and express their ideas. One person might see only an table. Where as another may see a waist-high fridge stainless-steel platform holding a extensive assortment of utensils. If these two descriptions are shared with the class then the can see how other people view the world. This might even cause the students to stop and wonder about what their view of a table is. The important aspect is allow the students to know that other people view the world completely different then they themselves do. That is how you help students to view the world clearly because if you show then differences the will begin to compare and contrast the two.

  • Zachary
  • Posted by Oronte on December 4, 2007 at 9:10am EST
  • You've got a big part of it here. In "Nature," Emerson says:

    "The wise man shows his wisdom in separation, in gradation, and his scale of creatures and of merits is as wide as nature. The foolish have no range in their scale, but suppose every man is as every other man. What is not good they call the worst, and what is not hateful, they call the best."

    Part of responding to anyone's writing is helping them to see if the scale of the writing's emotion is in proportion to what's shown to the reader.

  • Profs provide the sparks ...
  • Posted by Cathy on December 7, 2007 at 12:35pm EST
  • I am a former student of college writing classes. I am glad that I was taught to see clearly. Even if what I saw early one was simplistic or fogged by my youth. I was at least given the tools with which to do my work. Even if I have pursued it half- heartedly over the years.

    I am grateful for the early teachers, and later professors and workshop leaders who sowed the seeds. Please recognize that they may not bear fruit until later in the life of some writers. The sparks, embers, kindling and the tools to tend the fire are what Profs can provide - it is up to me to fan those elements into a fire and use it to create a work, and send it out into the world.

    Yes, there are many hot young writers who light up the literary scene in their early years. Some writers may be more like the sequoia whose pine cone waits for fire to clear the forest floor before sprouting a new tree.

    I am now in my early forties and am finally getting beyond beginnings and deeply into writing. I was recently heartened to read an article (can't find the reference though) stating that many well known writers didn't get going on their writing, or didn't start "hitting pay dirt" until they were in their 40s.

    I've been playing at writing for a long time, but recently picked up a story I began a few years ago in a writing workshop, and something shifted. The story is beginning to take life on the page.
    I am grateful to my High School English teachers, college English profs, my poetry prof and to my early newspaper editors. Each of whom added a few sticks of kindling to the fire, or gave me the tools to tend that creative fire.

  • Seeing clearly
  • Posted by Jane on December 7, 2007 at 8:50pm EST
  • I am an adjunct teaching comp and lit at what I believe is a prestiguous university (although not Ivy League). My comp class is the standard requirement for freshman, and I've had a very frustrating semester. My students vehemently refuse to re-see anything they've written. And it's quite possible I am at fault here. I have failed as a teacher to inspire them or to get certain information across. Nevertheless, I have never been so struck by their refusal to take a second look at anything. I asked them what was the point of writing something they already know; wouldn't it be more interesting to explore something they don't?
    For instance, a student wrote an essay on hip hop and the influence of gangsterism, drug dealing, crime, etc., on the music. T I asked him about the history of urban music. Was it always like this? When, how and why did people start writing songs like this? What happened to R & B, to say nothing of disco? He ignored the question. His final essay was the same as his first draft: a list of the cities and their styles of hip hop music.
    Another example: A student wrote an essay on the history of racism. This was a topic she picked. She said that racism began to wane when Martin Luther King Jr. marched to end school segregation. I told her twice that MLK Jr. was not involved in the fight to desegregate schools. Her final draft still contained this error.
    I cite these two examples to illustrate the depth of the problem I faced this semester. I did not have this experience in my lit class, and I acknowledge that I might have failed my comp students by being distracted by my lit class and other issues--I am a notoriously distracted person. Yet I still felt a certain shift beneath my feet these past few months. It was reassuring, if not necessarily invigorating, to hear that someone else had the same experience.
    Any suggestions? I'll take them. Thanks.

  • Jane
  • Posted by Oronte on December 9, 2007 at 11:25am EST
  • I hope Dinty and other teachers will jump back in here, since--brace yourself--I'm planning to be merely lyrical. It's always seemed to me that all of us construct very solid ego-protection walls as we write something, so that by the time the essay or story or whatever is finished, we cannot see what's behind the wall, for our own protection. In my experience, most apprentice writers do not want their work to suck, and, as a result, don't think that it does. The writing workshop, if it has value, is to help writers see more quickly what audience sees, and how there's a difference between that and what the writer thought was behind that wall.

  • Leading Whores to Water
  • Posted by Deirdre on February 6, 2008 at 5:45am EST
  • I returned to teaching in September after six years writing for a living. I must say that, while there are many differences in the students I remember and the ones I now face, I have not noticed that my students are particularly avoidant. Just today a male student from Jamaica wrote about being approached by a young, beautiful white girl. He ignored her. His upbringing trumped her beauty. Last week a student wrote about imagining the murder of his parish priest. Last semester I had an African American male write about the painting that hung over his bed when he was a child. From here he researched the painter who turned out not to be a religious African American, but a religious and market savvy white man. The essay asked if this was a problem and then dicussed African American Art. In all cases, I was amazed and heartened by daring of these students.

  • I think the key word is middle class
  • Posted by melissa on April 10, 2008 at 9:55am EDT
  • I appreciate the complaint! But as someone who both teaches at a university and works in my community-- and who works with a diverse student body-- I think a goodly amount of this complaint is to be attributed to culture and class. White middle class Americans are raising their children to be, well, children. They haven't seen or done much really in the world. They live in a multi-media wonder land. They've grown up in the years of abundance. I agree they want reassurance, though-- they are (at best) also curious about the world-- and a little bit of curiosity can go a long way towards opening minds. On the other hand, kids brought up in different circumstances grow up much faster. Sadly, we send them to war instead of college.