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October 1, 2009

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Struggling to understand the national debate over health care? You're not alone -- your future doctor may well be baffled, too.

A study published in the September issue of Academic Medicine found that nearly half of all medical students believe they have been inadequately educated about the "practice of medicine" -- especially related to medical economics.

“Our patients expect us to understand the system,” said Matthew M. Davis, one of the researchers and an associate professor of pediatrics and internal medicine in the Child Health Evaluation and Research Unit at the University of Michigan's medical school. “If we don’t, that can result in poor patient care. And if we don’t expect doctors to understand the health care system, who is going to?”

The study, by Davis and two colleagues at Michigan, examined tens of thousands of survey responses from medical students about the extent and perceived quality of their training in an array of curricular areas, including clinical care and decision making and the practice of medicine -- with the latter including health care systems, managed care, and practice management, among other areas.

The vast majority of respondents (more than 80 percent across the board during the period, which ran from 2003 to 2007) reported receiving "appropriate" levels of training in the clinical aspects of their education, including such things as diagnosis and management of disease, ethical decision making, pharmacology, and care of patients.

But fewer than 50 percent of medical students said they believed they had received appropriate training in areas related to the profession they are prepping to enter. (Because it is based on a survey, all of the data relate to future doctors' impressions of the education they received, not their actual aptitudes.)

The picture looked a little different when the researchers compared the national sample of students with responses from two individual medical schools, one of which had a "higher intensity" curriculum when it comes to the medical profession, and another that provided less instruction on that set of skills and knowledge.

Students in the former program were significantly likelier than those in the latter to report satisfaction with their level of training on the practice of medicine. And they were three times likelier to report appropriate training in medical economics and health care systems.

"The high-intensity curriculum in health care systems -- which differed from the lower-intensity curriculum both in structure and in class time devoted to the subject -- seems to have translated into a greater sense of appropriate instruction on the subject among graduating students," the authors wrote.

And it did not appear that the additional attention paid to that subject matter distracted students from the more clinical aspects of their medical training: They reported comparable levels of satisfaction with their perceived instruction in clinical areas as their peers did.

"This means that a higher intensity curriculum in health care systems could hold the potential to overcome medical students' perceptions of inadequate training in the practice of medicine and health care systems," without impairing the hugely important clinical aspects of their training, the authors say.

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Comments on Future Docs Are Confused, Too

  • What's the diff?
  • Posted by Jo , Aspiring crumudgeon at Hicksville U on October 1, 2009 at 8:45am EDT
  • Why should the med students be any less financially ignorant that, say, Sens. Dorgan and McCain? Who think miracle drugs can be sold like Dollar Store trinkets? Ignorance is bliss ..

  • Information
  • Posted by DFS on October 1, 2009 at 1:15pm EDT
  • Assuming (probably incorrectly) that most people still get their information from the "Mainstream Media," why not try to expand your knowledge by paying attention -- at least as long as you get verifiable information which justifies it -- by actually listening to or reading from other many other sources available to you: talk radio and the internet?

    For the best economic information in a nutshell, I recommend Walter Williams, Thomas Sowell, and Neal Boortz, just to name a few starting points away from your college professors, who still smoke from pipes and have reinforced elbow patches on their jackets, and have never met a payroll nor done any kind of self-interested job for actual money -- ever -- in their entire lives.

  • ABC Radio Talk Shows?
  • Posted by PQR on October 1, 2009 at 2:45pm EDT
  • DFS: If by talk shows you mean the ABC radio lineup, your talking about a major corporate conglomerate. There the debate is between all-out for-profit healthcare (which has led to the present mess) and some tame version of "public option" whereby only the poorest, sickest people might get government care. That's not a good risk spread. When such a thing fails, the mainstream media will crow that government can't do healthcare. Obama and the dems are being leveraged by HUGE private $$$$$ into a set-up for failure. These heavy-handed, lobbying, PR-driven behemoths are, if you ask me, profoundly contemptuous of democracy and what average citizens have a right to demand of their own government. Talk about spin.

    The corporate media ARE the mainstream media. I would ask readers to consider your noncorporate suggestions if you and they will also consider, say, Pacifica Radio, including Democracy Now!, Doug Henwood and company, In These Times, The Progressive, Z Magazine, Mother Jones, not to mention academic journals--all arguing that Single Payer is the way to go for full coverage, quality care, and to contain costs. What we will likely get, however, is something that further enriches the already rich. And the rich--as we all know--are the ones who throw everything off kilter.

  • PQR
  • Posted by DFS on October 3, 2009 at 5:00pm EDT
  • No. I'm not talking about ABC Radio Talk Shows.

    Instead, I'm talking about any talk show which employs actual economists who actually profess their subject and defend such to any caller. They succeed because they are correct; else, they would be off the air. That's the marketplace in action.

    Yes, the corporate media were the mainstream media: ABC, CBS, NBC, AP, Reuters, etc. There is new "corporate media" available now -- those who are successful in the marketplace. The people are not as dumb as you might think. This market is only growing, not waning as the previous list is doing.

    Besides, it was, in reality, never a "corporate" question. The already rich could be feared -- if this already rich is propped up by confiscated tax dollars, like NPR, or by targetted dollars, like from George Soros, one of the principal backers to your suggested assortment of the same candy.

    But, this is all moot, since your conception of corporations being the ultimate evil will eventually be stomped out.

    Mr. Obama will not get his second term. There will be yet another conservative revolution, and I thank God for this.