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January 21, 2010

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The percentage of college freshmen planning to major in business is at its lowest level since the mid-1970s, according to a national survey of students who entered baccalaureate institutions in the fall.

Thursday, the Higher Education Research Institute (HERI) at the University of California at Los Angeles released the 2009 version of its “Freshman Survey,” which it has conducted annually since 1966. This latest report is based on the responses of nearly 220,000 first-time, full-time students at 297 four-year institutions. All data have been "statistically adjusted" to reflect the views of nearly 1.4 million freshmen who entered college in the fall.

From 2008 to 2009, the percentage of freshman who plan on majoring in business fell from 16.8 percent to 14.4 percent. The last time interest in the business major was lower was 1974, with 14 percent. Also, in one year, the percentage of freshmen who listed their "probable career" as one in business dropped from 14.1 percent to 12.1 percent. This is an all-time low for the survey; the previous low was in 2003, when 13.8 percent reported that their goal was a career in business.

“I think that a business career doesn’t look as appealing as it once did, nor does it come with a guarantee of being well-off financially as in the past,” said Linda DeAngelo, co-author of the accompanying report and assistant director of research for the Cooperative Institutional Research Program at HERI. “Some of that can definitely be attributed to the general sense that we spent a lot of time over the past year raking business executives and people in high finance over the coals. There’s certainly a trickle down, and I don’t think high school students are immune to that overall feeling about business.”

Disaggregating the various niches within the broad career field of “business,” DeAngelo noted that interest in accounting, business administration and management all fell from 2008, while interest in finance and marketing remained about the same.

The recession not only affected the choices of major and career field among freshmen; it also raised anxiety about their ability to pay for college. In 2009, about two-thirds of the incoming students responded that they had “some” or “major" concerns about “their ability to finance their college education.”

These figures, however, have not changed all that dramatically since the last recession, in the early 2000s. In 2002, 52.7 percent of freshmen reported that they had “some concerns” about paying, and 12.6 percent reported they had “major concerns.” Last year, 55.4 percent reported that had “some concerns,” and 11.3 percent reported having “major concerns.”

Still, DeAngelo argued that simply citing student anxiety about paying for college does not fully gauge the impact of this recession. More figures from the study, she noted, must be considered “in totality” to support her argument that this recession has taken a toll that other recessions have not.

For instance, in the latest survey, 4.5 percent of freshmen reported having a father who was unemployed. This is the highest unemployment rate for fathers since the survey began in 1966. Also, 7.9 percent of freshmen reported that their mother was unemployed. This is the highest since 1979. Since the last recession, these figures have jumped noticeably. In 2002, the unemployment rate for fathers was 2.4 percent, and for mothers, 4.5 percent.

On Student Politics and Remediation

The latest Freshman Survey also reveals a fairly consistent pattern in the political leanings of incoming students. The 2008 first-year class contained the highest percentage of liberals since 1973; 31 percent of freshmen identified themselves that way. The percentage of liberals fell to 29 percent with last fall’s incoming class.

The report’s authors argue that this percentage drop “might at first seem like a reaction to President Obama’s first year in office.” They note, however, that it actually follows a trend the annual survey has chronicled since the election of President Carter in 1976: “Following a political party change in the White House, regardless of political party, in the next year there is a slight drop in the percentage of liberal students and a slight increase in the percentage of conservative students.”

Despite the known pattern in the annual survey, DeAngelo said she and other researchers were still surprised by the two-point drop in the percentage of liberals since the presidential election.

“There was so much talk about the surge of the youth vote and the surge of new voters who were so excited about Obama,” DeAngelo explained. “I expected that the percentage of liberals would have at least stayed the same or even risen with the next class. I thought that the pattern was going to be broken, but that’s been in place since some of these kids’ parents were young.”

The latest survey also reveals that more freshmen than ever reported that they had received “special tutoring or remedial work” in “core subject areas” in high school. Of the entering class in 2009, 21.2 percent noted that they had received this help in “one or more subjects.” This is up four percentage points in the past decade, DeAngelo noted.

Once in college, 38.7 percent of freshmen reported that they thought they would need aid or remediation in “one or more subjects.” This has grown 2.7 percentage points in the past decade. Disaggregated, DeAngelo noted, the reported need for remediation in subjects like English and mathematics has not shifted significantly since 1999.

Considering just the 2009 data, there still exist gaps between the percentage of those who received remedial work in high school in certain subjects and the percentage of those who need remedial work in college. The most severe gaps are in science, writing and foreign languages. Reading and social studies, however, show a decreased need for further remediation in college among freshmen.

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  • Good News
  • Posted by CC Prof on January 21, 2010 at 8:30am EST
  • I was delighted by the decline in those interested in majoring in business. One thing that I really don't like about the business major are all the courses in the major that crowd out other courses that students might take. Typically, the business major has no room to explore other disciplines in any depth. In fact, it seems to me that after taking the prerequisites for business such as math, accounting, and economics the best thing for the aspiring business person to do is to major in another discipline. If a student goes into business after college, he or she will spend many years learning about business. Why waste 4-5 years studying business in the classroom when one could be studying something that one is truly interested in?

  • Posted by Christine on January 21, 2010 at 9:30am EST
  • Why do students have to study business courses? Because it is a technical discipline, and actuaries, accountants, and finance professionals (like health professionals and engineers) do not completely learn "on the job." They are expected to have a strong base of skills when they enter the workforce. Employers expect that.
    It may not fit the definition of liberal arts education, but engineering, business, and healthcare are not the liberal arts.
    And...students who major in business are usually studying and exploring what they are interested in - business and economics.

  • Posted by Christine , Abandon?? on January 21, 2010 at 10:00am EST
  • I'm not sure I would call a 2.4% decrease from freshman (many of whom will change their majors) an "abandonment."

  • Disturbing statement
  • Posted by Bill , associate professor at Rochester Instititute of Technology on January 21, 2010 at 12:00pm EST
  • I am disturbed by any ethical faculty member cheering the decline in demand for any legitimate college major. The academy thrives on diversity in all of its forms, include diversity of interests. Business is a legitimate area of academic inquiry; the fact that it has many practical applications is a bonus. While it's true that many business programs have greater course requirements than some non-business programs (which is also true of other programs, as noted), students who choose this area of study are accepting that. Colleges establish maximum numbers of courses that students may take in one area of study, and that facilitates student exposure to a broad range of other subjects. The post by "Good News" suggests an individual assertion that these maximums, established by state regulatory agencies and applied by collective faculty and administrators of colleges, are too high. I believe that these decisions are and should be determined through shared analysis and governance. An aside: In many colleges, the large number of students choosing business as a major provide the institutions with resources to support other, more expensive programs. In other words, the decline in business majors may influence a decline in funding of non-business programs. I hope Good News's department is not eliminated due to the decline.

  • Freshman Abandon Business
  • Posted by Susie Watts , Director at College Direction on January 21, 2010 at 4:45pm EST
  • As a college consultant, I am thrilled to see that freshmen no longer feel they have to major in business in order to enter the business world. I always encourage students to major in what interest them, knowing that this will be far more appealing to employers
    than a business major. I am a firm believer in the liberal arts and have spoken to business recruiters who agree that the liberal arts is one of the best preparations for business. It is still, however, difficult to convince some parents that this is the case.

    www.collegedirection.org

  • Posted by Christine on January 21, 2010 at 5:15pm EST
  • Very good points Bill. B-schools are often the "cash cow" (to use a business term) for other less popular programs at many institutions.
    And to Susan, I have heard these theories before and you are doing a disservice to your clients with this advice. Many graduating seniors with solid resumes and high GPAs are not finding positions in this economy - people with degrees in finance, accounting, and management. Liberal arts graduates are not getting solid entry level positions in business. Employers are looking for strong skills and work experience; it is very competitive.

  • Unapologetic
  • Posted by CC Prof on January 21, 2010 at 7:45pm EST
  • First, in response to Christine, I agree that accountants and actuaries have important technical skills. But one needs only take accounting courses to take the CPA exam (at least in my state). One does not need a business degree. So, why are the other business courses needed by the aspiring accountant? Why can't the aspiring accountant take the necessary accounting courses and major in something else? As for the actuary, math and statistics courses are what are needed, not business courses. Why does an aspiring actuary need a course in marketing, etc.? Again, the aspiring actuary could major in anything, as long as he or she takes the necessary math courses. I would imagine that the same is true for much work in finance.

    Second, this brings me to my general point about the business major. I was not arguing that the major be abolished, but I was criticizing what I take to be excessive requirements within the major. Bill complained that this was not warranted because I was individually criticizing some sort of group decision. But just because a committee decides on something does not mean that it is a good decision. Personally, I think that many of the business programs have excessive requirements. I've given reasons for this view with respect to accountants, etc.

    The response that such an "individual assertion" is unwarranted because it challenges the decisions of committees, regulators, etc. is simply inadequate. It is either an argument from popularity or an argument from authority. But what expertise do these people possess? Are they claiming to have expert knowledge about what constitutes a good education? It is doubtful that they have such knowledge. So, what are the reasons for why all of the courses typically required for a business major are required for all the different specialties in the major? I've expressed doubts about the necessity of all the requirements for a student who wants to be an accountant. If I'm wrong about this (and I very well could be), then why am I wrong? To say that I'm wrong because a committee says that I am is not sufficient.

    Third, Bill argued that diversity of academic interests is needed on university campuses. I agree. The article stated that interest in business among freshmen fell from 16.8% to 14.4%. There a dozens of majors at many campuses, but a decline in interest in one major from 1/6 of the student body to roughly 1/7 represents a decrease in diversity? That doesn't follow. It would more likely result in an increase in diversity. Also, if business programs reduced the requirements for an undergraduate degree in business, then students, as individuals, would be free to take a wider range of courses. Also, students would be able to more frequently double major. The double major gives students depth and diversity of knowledge. The business requirements make it very difficult for business students to double major.

    Finally, Bill states that is unethical for a faculty member to cheer the decline of any major. Why would that be unethical if one thinks that this nation produces too many business majors? I'd like to see more students studying math, science, philosophy, foreign languages, history, etc. I truly doubt if we will remain a great nation if many of our best minds study business instead of other disciplines. It used to be that our best minds went into fields like medicine, science, engineering, etc. But lately many have been going to Wall Street and MBA programs, lured by all the money. What great things have they done? The moon landings were a great undertaking. Now our great undertakings are things like derivatives and ARM's.

  • Liberal Arts and Business?
  • Posted by Assist. Professor on January 21, 2010 at 8:30pm EST
  • Businessweek recently ran this article on the value of the philosophy major for business. Am I missing something here? I would have thought the liberal arts are an excellent place to major.

    http://www.businessweek.com/managing/content/jan2010/ca20100110_896657.htm

  • Posted by Christine on January 22, 2010 at 8:45am EST
  • CC Prof: The CPA licensing requirements now mandate 150 credit hours to become licensed in ALL of the mid-Atlantic states. Most B-schools are now offering a master's program so that students can have the necessary course requirements, which are outlined by the state licensing board. So business schools are responding to the requirements set forth by the state. There are TEN actuarial science professional exams that must be taken dependent on how far an actuary wants to take their career. And why is this? Because lawmakers want to require business professionals to have more and more education becuase the perception is that this will prevent incidents like Enron, Bernie Madoff, etc. (This of course is not true, because there will always be unethical, dishonest people, regardless of their education).
    Secondly, a valuable business professional understands ALL aspects of a business, not only one area; just as a physician understands the entire body, not just one system. Therein lies the value of a broad business education.
    Again, although I understand the value of a liberal education, realistically most families send their student to college to get a good job. That is the reality of it. And there is not the time, or funds, to offer longer programs so that students can study all they need to in business, engineering, and healthcare PLUS have a broad liberal arts education. It's reality.

  • Liberal arts again
  • Posted by Assist. Professor on January 22, 2010 at 11:15am EST
  • You write: "although I understand the value of a liberal education, realistically most families send their student to college to get a good job."

    This statement is concerning in the assumptions it makes about the liberal arts and getting "good" employment. Do you know that Harvard University does not have undergraduate professional programs and yet it students seem to do just fine? Do you know that presidents and Supreme Court justices and professors and lawmakers and journalists and writers and small business owners and elementary school teachers and museum curators and financial analysts and web designers and pilots are liberal arts majors? I would have thought these were pretty decent jobs. Of course, you are right that it may be difficult to become a CPA that way, but that is a different issue.

  • Posted by Bill , associate professor on January 22, 2010 at 11:30am EST
  • My bottom line on this issue, from the beginning and continuing: I would never cheer the decline in enrollment in any major, and I would never presume to know how many courses anyone should be limited to in any major, but particularly not in majors other than my own. I don't know the right number of English or engineering or education courses, for example, if there is such a thing as the right number. I don't know the optimal mix of courses across disciplines that is right for everyone. Business has a place in the mix, and processes and systems that have evolved over many years with input from a massive number of individuals and constituencies have brought us to this point. I don't know if there are too many business courses in a major, and Good News doesn't either. We have our opinions; the collective knowledge of many has spoken. But I would never cheer the decline in enrollment in any major.

  • Posted by Christine on January 22, 2010 at 12:00pm EST
  • Assist Professor:
    Please don't use Harvard or any of the Ivy Leagues as a model for most students. The Ivy Leagues have selective admission, so of course most of their students are successful. Their students generally come from high socioeconomic, connected, highly educated families, so of course most of their students are successful, both in their education and careers.
    As for many of the professions you listed, most presidents, Supreme Court justices, and professors have graduate degrees, do they not? Only about 5-8% of U.S. citizens hold degrees beyond the undergraduate level. This discussion began with commentary on undergraduate programs what a student should study in those programs, and what their career aspirations are.
    You're mixing apples and oranges, and most students will NOT attend either Harvard or graduate school.

  • Not all apples and oranges
  • Posted by Assist. Professor on January 22, 2010 at 1:15pm EST
  • Christine is of course right that Harvard is not typical for all students. And, yes, many of the jobs you mention involve graduate school. But this is certainly not the case with all. That is why I mentioned as other areas "journalists and writers and small business owners and elementary school teachers and museum curators and financial analysts and web designers and pilots." I know many students in such areas with undergraduate degrees in liberal arts. I do not dispute that getting certified as a CPA may require a very specific education in business, and I don't doubt the world needs CPA's (I certainly do). But I worry when study of the professions is claimed to be how one gets a "good job". The truth is that there are good jobs for students in all sorts of programs and they have to figure out where these jobs are and how to prepare for them. As long as we agree on that then I have no problem.

  • Posted by Christine on January 22, 2010 at 3:00pm EST
  • Asst. Professor: Let me bring back my observations a bit to yesterday. The original obervation I responded to was that students did not need a business education to secure employment in BUSINESS, and I also included engineering and the health professions in my comments. I hear this idea often from colleagues in the liberal arts and humanities.
    My career experience is in business and business education, and I have RARELY run across colleagues without business degrees. As I stated I currently am in an environment where I see students with very impressive entry-level business credentials not receiving job offers because the market is very competitive right now. I doubt that students with degrees in philosophy, history, or anthropology would be hired over these business graduates FOR POSITIONS IN BUSINESS. Large national corporations only recruit for these positions in the business and ist schools.
    So...I feel that if you've worked with a student and they have a strong desire to be an engineer, nurse, or actuary, they are not being served well if they don't study in those disciplines.
    But,if a student has a desire to study liberal arts, then they should, and they will work toward their career aspirations as they go forward.
    I cannot speak for hiring in journalism, the airline industry, or the arts, because I have less, and no current exposure in those areas.
    So I think we probably do agree, I just know what I see, realistically, on a daily basis.

  • What about a business minor?
  • Posted by CC Prof on January 22, 2010 at 4:45pm EST
  • First, I readily concede Christine's point that aspiring accountants are going to tied to courses required to become a CPA, and most, but not all, states are now requiring many accounting and business courses. (I made the mistake of only looking at my state to see what was needed. It only required 30 hours in accounting.) However, I don't understand why one would advise an aspiring actuary to be a business major if he or she were interested in something else. Some business courses are required, but most of the courses needed to prepare for the actuarial exams will be in math and statistics.

    Second, Christine claims that the reality is that one cannot combine serious undergraduate work in business with a liberal arts degree. This is false. Many schools are now offering a business minor, as discussed in this article from BusinessWeek.

    http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/07_12/b4026075.htm

    The student in the article earned an engineering degree and a minor in business. I would think that a degree in a science, foreign language, math, etc. coupled with a business minor could make one a very attractive job applicant. I wish that the local university near my college had a minor in business so that my students who are about to transfer would not have to make a choice between something that they really want to study (a liberal arts degree) and something that they feel is more practical (a business degree). A business minor is a way to split the difference and allow students to do both. My students, typically, are not going to have the time nor financial resources to return to school for any serious study of something they are really interested in. I find it sad that students frequently feel that they can't pursue a passionate interest because it is not practical.

    I just talked today with a student who has extensive experience in marketing/sales, but who is trying to decide between a business degree and a degree in education. Advising such students is not easy. We discussed the pros and cons of both options. She really wants to give teaching a try. So, I advised her to do that, but also to think about taking some courses in accounting, economics, and math. A business minor would be perfect for her, but the local university does not have one.

  • Liberal arts and the business major
  • Posted by Eduardo Ochoa , Provost & former b-school dean at Sonoma State University on January 22, 2010 at 7:45pm EST
  • It should be pointed out that the AACSB accreditation standards for undergraduate business programs require that at least 50% of the coursework be in non-business disciplines. It is generally recognized in the field that a quality undergraduate business education must include a substantial grounding in the liberal arts and sciences. AAC&U also recognizes the need for this in all majors, including professional ones, by consciously switching to the term "liberal education" in advocating for the presence of the liberal arts in undergraduate programs to help instill the critical thinking and communication skills that employers say they look for in graduates.

  • it's over
  • Posted by mbkirova on February 3, 2010 at 1:30pm EST
  • My students agree-- don't waste time on a business major because it is far too general. Liberal arts is fine, but go too for math, economics and politics if you really want to see what's coming down the pike. Learn, for pete's sake, to write and speak compellingly.

    And that was a cheap shot at Obama, Moltz. Business degrees and MBAs have been going out of style for a long time because they never actually taught anyone how to do anything; so much of it was twaddle management theory. If you want to run your own business, start by getting a job or internship while you are still studying. learning on the ground is the only way.